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Anyone in here running 4 x 100 hubs on an SS TC/SC?

Brian74

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Brian74
Is anyone here running 4 on 100 hubs with the SC/TC? I made that decision long ago because the wheel selection is much better. I seem to recall that there is not much difficulty to convert the rear hubs & bearings over, but I cannot remember all of the specifics. I am planning on buying the DF subframe, and am also running the Solstice parking brake kit. I think I bought my parking brake kit before they were drilling the rotors for 4 on 100, so I will have to swap that out.

Is there anything else I should be concerned about?
 
Ross
@JERMzSS #36 ran 4x100 hubs on his SC goblin, all the years we raced together. He has since sold his goblin.
He had 15" wheels that were hard to find, I think they came out of europe.
The wheel selection is much better with 5x114.3 than with 4x100. Not sure why you would want to go to 4x100. Trying to save weight?
 
Brian74
@JERMzSS #36 ran 4x100 hubs on his SC goblin, all the years we raced together. He has since sold his goblin.
He had 15" wheels that were hard to find, I think they came out of europe.
The wheel selection is much better with 5x114.3 than with 4x100. Not sure why you would want to go to 4x100. Trying to save weight?

4x100 is the most common 4 lug pattern in the world. 5x114.3 is common as well. I made the decision years back based on some threads I read here where some of the first Goblin builders said they were finding better wheel selection in the 4 x 100 pattern, and after shopping around for some wheel choices. Thinking back there were probably other reasons, having to do with axles, maybe weight or availability and cost of the axles.

EDIT: looking back it looks like everyone was stuck with 5x110 back then? I do also remember I did not want to run adapter plates.
 
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duthehustle93
I'm running 4x100 on my SS/TC so I can share wheels with my miatas... 15x9 is a good size anyways with amazing tire selection so I probably would have gone this route regardless of what wheels I already had on hand.

Base model hubs up front, and I redrilled my rear hubs on a bridgeport. I also redrilled the rear solstice rotors and front LSJ rotors to 4x100. Admittedly I didn't do research, but I vaguely recall that SS/SC shares the same splines with the N/A SS, so you can run 4x100 rear hubs. The SS/TC (I believe) has different axles, so this is off the table. Double check me here, because I never researched this, I just recall seeing it somewhere but I stopped researching because I was spending more time researching than just redrilling the hubs.

4x100 is the easiest pattern to redrill... you literally just need to indicate center, and then move 50mm out on each side in X and Y. If you don't have machine shop access, I'd bet a local machine shop would do it for a very reasonable price. FYI, one of your new 4x100 holes will intersect one of the old 5x110 holes.. there's no way to avoid it. I would recommend filling the lug hole that will overlap before machining the new holes; you would want to machine a press fit dowel to fill the hole, tac weld it into position away from where they have to drill, drill the hole, finish welding, grind down the weld. You don't want to fully weld the dowel beforehand and make the machinist suffer by making them drill through a hard weld. Alternatively, you can just drill the holes (which would give you more of a slot at the intersecting hole), bolt on a 4x100 wheel with the studs (the 4th stud that is in the "slot" will get located perfectly because the other 3 studs are on center), and TIG weld the backside of the stud to the hub. Ideally, you'll have a helper holding a wet rag on the other side to retain the temper on the stud. The temper on the shoulder of the stud (where you'd be welding) isn't very important.
 
Brian74
I'm running 4x100 on my SS/TC so I can share wheels with my miatas... 15x9 is a good size anyways with amazing tire selection so I probably would have gone this route regardless of what wheels I already had on hand.

Base model hubs up front, and I redrilled my rear hubs on a bridgeport. I also redrilled the rear solstice rotors and front LSJ rotors to 4x100. Admittedly I didn't do research, but I vaguely recall that SS/SC shares the same splines with the N/A SS, so you can run 4x100 rear hubs. The SS/TC (I believe) has different axles, so this is off the table. Double check me here, because I never researched this, I just recall seeing it somewhere but I stopped researching because I was spending more time researching than just redrilling the hubs.

4x100 is the easiest pattern to redrill... you literally just need to indicate center, and then move 50mm out on each side in X and Y. If you don't have machine shop access, I'd bet a local machine shop would do it for a very reasonable price. FYI, one of your new 4x100 holes will intersect one of the old 5x110 holes.. there's no way to avoid it. I would recommend filling the lug hole that will overlap before machining the new holes; you would want to machine a press fit dowel to fill the hole, tac weld it into position away from where they have to drill, drill the hole, finish welding, grind down the weld. You don't want to fully weld the dowel beforehand and make the machinist suffer by making them drill through a hard weld. Alternatively, you can just drill the holes (which would give you more of a slot at the intersecting hole), bolt on a 4x100 wheel with the studs (the 4th stud that is in the "slot" will get located perfectly because the other 3 studs are on center), and TIG weld the backside of the stud to the hub. Ideally, you'll have a helper holding a wet rag on the other side to retain the temper on the stud. The temper on the shoulder of the stud (where you'd be welding) isn't very important.

Thanks for the info. You are correct about the splines. I am running an SC/LSJ transmission so I have full compatibility with the axles. I bought my kit with 4x100 front and rear hubs and rotors. Looks like the only issue is I somehow ended up with the TC version of the parking brake kit, so at this point it looks like I will just need to swap out the rear rotors with DF rotors that are drilled for 4x100, or find a way to do it locally.
 
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