V1 Two Wires Off Starter

[Robinjo]

I have the two wires in the same bundle from the starter. One is the fuse box post (red collar) and the other (black collar) is a ground, right?

 

[Desert Sasqwatch]

Looks like the bottom nut on the black wires bolted in is sitting on powder coating or paint. Even the smallest bit under this ground will cause problems.

 

[Robinjo]

I drilled a new hole and cleaned under the nut a lot. Sneak peak for tomorrow, she fires and runs….

 

[Ross]

I have the two wires in the same bundle from the starter. One is the fusebox post (red colar) and the other (black colar) is a ground, right?View attachment 35206

No... don't put that on ground! (Unless you want an electrical fire)
The starter has 3 electrical lugs, and they all are positive. Ground gets to the starter by being bolted to the engine, which is grounded.

The 1st heavy wire goes to the battery 12V+. That same lug has a heavy wire that goes up to the fusebox on the back (not the ground post), under the jump start post with the hard to find red circle cap on it. Sometimes it also has a wire going to the alternator.

The 2nd heavy 12V+ lead goes to the starter motor with a short 1" wire visible.

The 3rd little wire is the purple wire that gets energized when the ECU wants the engine to crank over.

 

[Gtstorey]

Just to be clear the 2nd post should only have the one wire, usually bare, that runs from the solenoid to the main starter body. It should not have touched unless you disassembled the starter solenoid.

 

[Robinjo]

I’m unclear… where does the black banded wire go?
I have the red banded one on the fusebox post.

 

[Ross]

Which wire is the black banded one?
Can you follow it back to the starter motor?

 

[escapepilot]

Your starter should be just like mine. Starter has a heavy bare braided wire from one terminal into the starter motor body. One terminal has the single purple trigger wire that carries the start signal. And last terminal has three wires: one heavy gauge from battery, one to fuse box terminal, and smaller gauge to alternator. No other wires to starter. Only other heavy gauge wire will be from battery negative to chassis ground at the battery box.

 

[Robinjo]

I followed that black banded wire and it goes to a grounding point on the engine. It's hard to see in the photo, but it mounts to a point on the engine block above the starter. I did confirm that I only have the three wires on my start.
A- A purple Wire
B- The thick wire running from the battery to the Starter
C- The red banded thick wire running from the starter to the Fusebox lug

 

[Gtstorey]

You still need to tie the alternator output into that "chain" of positive wires. I think by DF instructions it is normally at the starter, but it really doesn't matter where on that battery, starter, fusebox trio that you connect it to.

 

[Robinjo]

You still need to tie the alternator output into that "chain" of positive wires. I think by DF instructions it is normally at the starter, but it really doesn't matter where on that battery, starter, fusebox trio that you connect it to.

Is the alternator not already connected or is this something extra we need to do that isn't mentioned?

 

[Rauq]

Alternator should also have a thick wire going to the starter.

In my car, the starter is connected to the battery, the alternator, and the fuse box.

 

[Robinjo]

I'll check that as well when I'm under it tonight working on the Heat Exchanger hoses.