V1 Joe's 2009 F40 SS/TC #470

[comegetjoe]

Only had 30-40min today to work on the car.
Got the shifter installed.
Without the car on or shifter cables adjusted it shifts all 6 gears, but reverse... I need to adjust the cables to find out for sure, but I'm not positive that there is enough left to right to get there. I'll need the help of my good ole buddy Scott to see if something else is a foot or if I am travel limited by the shifter. I hope not.
GD cats...

 

[ah.b.normal]

Only had 30-40min today to work on the car.
Got the shifter installed.
Without the car on or shifter cables adjusted it shifts all 6 gears, but reverse... I need to adjust the cables to find out for sure, but I'm not positive that there is enough left to right to get there. I'll need the help of my good ole buddy Scott to see if something else is a foot or if I am travel limited by the shifter. I hope not.
GD cats...
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Consider the foot prints they leave as charges for the rodents they take away.

 

[comegetjoe]

Don't be suspicious Don't be suspicious. (music notes)


IT WORKS!!!

I HAVE AN F40 CAR THAT MOVES FORWARDS AND BACKWARDS UNDER ITS OWN POWER!!! THE DF SHIFTER WORKS WITH THE F40!!

disclaimer* - know your shift pattern before attempting to make anything work lmfao. I spent 2 hours and 5 Yuenglings at 10am trying to figure out why I didn't have enough travel to get to reverse which was up and to the left of 1st gear.... turns out, Reverse is right and up of 6th. Please, share this lol with me and actually smile

I'm so excited right now.

What do I win!? Surely there is a prize?!
LETS GOOOOOO!!!

 

[Desert Sasqwatch]

Woo hoo! Fantastic news! It's been a long time coming with plenty of challenges to get to this point.

I'm wondering with reverse being next to the higher gears if a mechanical lockout may be needed? Something to keep the lateral lever from going further than 5-6 to keep gears in the transmission from accidentally try to engage and instead make metal shavings.

You're this far, maybe add some insurance?

 

[Rttoys]

 

[comegetjoe]

Lolz, wait a second....

 

[comegetjoe]

So I wasn't wrong.
I was trying to follow the correct pattern of up and to the left for Reverse, but I have an up and to the right Reverse. So what gives? @Desert Sasqwatch
What changes with the trans and DF's shifter to give me this new shift pattern? And YES I'm 100% sure that's where my Reverse is, up and next to 5th gear on the right and 1st is up and to the right where it should be.

 

[comegetjoe]

Now I'm second guessing myself. I did stall it like 10x, but I had no seat in the car and was at the clutch switch limit with my foot when restarting the car, could I have been in 5th and with how light the car is, it still moved? Could my cables be crossed?

 

[ah.b.normal]

Don't be suspicious Don't be suspicious. (music notes)


IT WORKS!!!

I HAVE AN F40 CAR THAT MOVES FORWARDS AND BACKWARDS UNDER ITS OWN POWER!!! THE DF SHIFTER WORKS WITH THE F40!!

BIG ENVY!!

 

[ah.b.normal]

Now I'm second guessing myself. I did stall it like 10x, but I had no seat in the car and was at the clutch switch limit with my foot when restarting the car, could I have been in 5th and with how light the car is, it still moved? Could my cables be crossed?

Crossed? I would not be amazed but I'm gonna have to think out this one! OK, Side to side shifter movement raises and lowers the selector/plunger on the trans, fore and aft movement moves the swingy wingy thingy. If that's too technical I can send crayon drawings snail mail. Cave man Og(me) not so tech saavy.

 

[ah.b.normal]

The SWThingy will only swing to the back to engage reverse and odd number gears!

Hope this helps.

 

[comegetjoe]

I'm with you AH, and that's the movement I get when I move my shifter.
*shrugs shoulders*

 

[Desert Sasqwatch]

To help out the caveman...

Moving the shifter front to back moves the transmission lever with the large counterweight (driver's side)? Moving the shifter left to right moves the transmission lever on the tower (passenger's side)? My stupid question but just want to be sure the cables are not switched sides at the transmission.

I'm doing this from memory since my transmission is in the storage unit, not in my garage currently. From my recollection, first-third-fifth are the counterweight lever in the rearmost position (cable pulling) and second-fourth-sixth in the forward most position (cable pushing). The tower lever is 1-2 in the upper position (cable is pulling), 3-4 middle position, and 5-6 in the lowermost position (cable pushing).

Reverse is a little fuzzy, and I may be totally wrong without playing around with my F40, but I think it is the tower in its uppermost position (cable pulling) and (even more fuzzy) rear position (cable pulling). You know it is reverse when the counterweight lever only moves rearward and can't move forward past neutral. This would put Reverse next to first gear (furthest left and forward on the shifter) - as shown in the gear positions on the SAAB/Opel shifter.

 

[comegetjoe]

To help out the caveman...

Moving the shifter front to back moves the transmission lever with the large counterweight (driver's side)? Moving the shifter left to right moves the transmission lever on the tower (passenger's side)? My stupid question but just want to be sure the cables are not switched sides at the transmission.

I'm doing this from memory since my transmission is in the storage unit, not in my garage currently. From my recollection, first-third-fifth are the counterweight lever in the rearmost position (cable pulling) and second-fourth-sixth in the forward most position (cable pushing). The tower lever is 1-2 in the upper position (cable is pulling), 3-4 middle position, and 5-6 in the lowermost position (cable pushing).

Reverse is a little fuzzy, and I may be totally wrong without playing around with my F40, but I think it is the tower in its uppermost position (cable pulling) and (even more fuzzy) rear position (cable pulling). You know it is reverse when the counterweight lever only moves rearward and can't move forward past neutral. This would put Reverse next to first gear (furthest left and forward on the shifter) - as shown in the gear positions on the SAAB/Opel shifter.

I will check on this tomorrow when I get home from work, but if I do have them backwards, that could explain a whole bunch of things.

 

[Rttoys]

If they are backwards, you wouldn’t be the first and won’t be the last to do that. It happens

 

[Ross]

@comegetjoe, Instead of using this normal shift pattern:

Does this shift pattern work on your transmission? lt has the R in the upper right, like you said it was. If the cables were swapped, this might be the resultant shift pattern.

 

[comegetjoe]

Thats what Scott and I have been talking about. In person
I thought about that RT and @Ross that would make 100% sense, but I still have a traditional H pattern for 1-6 and then Reverse in the top right.

Now, I can only confirm that the top left gear was a forward gear, I cannot confirm it was 1st gear. And although I shifted through the gears I did not let the clutch out in any others that the forward top left and the confirmed Reverse.

 

[comegetjoe]

I will see tomorrow after work. I'll try multiple gears and triple confirm positions.
Ill swap cables for science. No shame in.being wrong if that's what's going on here. I dont mind.

 

[ah.b.normal]

The wing thing moving back is an odd numbered gear or reverse. So... if you put the shifter in neutral and move it side to side and the wing thing moves front to back, you have swapped the cables.
Side to side on the shift handle should move the plunger up and down.

 

[comegetjoe]

It's hard to see with one person, but the left/right wiggle when in nuetral moves the assembly up and down.