V1 Redlines - 2008 SS TC Goblin build in Mississippi

[Briann1177]

The one on the left picture I believe is your MAP sensor. You'll need that. The one on the right looks to be EVAP canister purge solenoid. You can probably go without it.

 

[Steve Sallenbach]

I had the same issue, both were broken off. The first photo is a MAP sensor which I am replacing. I found one on ebay for $23.32 item #12592026. the second one is for the EVAP system which you don't use unless your state law requires it. I'm going to plug the hole in mine.

 

[redline]

anyone know what moog bushings fit the fe5 control arms. At least that is what I am reading is that the 2008 SS has the Fe5 control arm. I read in someones build thread that they had trouble with the bushing being too small and I just want to make sure I get the correct part number.

 

[Waterdriver]

anyone know what moog bushings fit the fe5 control arms. At least that is what I am reading is that the 2008 SS has the Fe5 control arm. I read in someones build thread that they had trouble with the bushing being too small and I just want to make sure I get the correct part number.

The one I used was: MOOG K201285 - RockAuto

 

[DanPerryy]

The first one is the manifold pressure sensor - not the maf sensor - MAF measures air density.

 

[Briann1177]

Who said MAF? All I see are MAPs.

 

[redline]

I may have on accident when I messaged him earlier. is there an upgraded MAP? I thought I read about it on someones tuned Cobalt ss tc? might be worth just getting that one now?? anyone have any info on them? I believe it was 3 bar or something like that.

Thank you for the part number Water.

 

[Briann1177]

Yes, there is an upgraded MAP provided in the GM stage 1 kit; however, I read that you don't want to run those on a stock tune.

 

[redline]

Hmmm, guess I'll get the stock one for now and replace it when the time comes. Thank you for the info as always.

 

[dperkins]

If you are going to tune and run extra boost, get the 3 bar sensor. Luckily mine already had it but it's only about 100 dollars anyway.

 

[JSATX]

Zzp recommends the 4 bar map with their upgraded tunes. Definitely will not work on a stock tune.

 

[ctuinstra]

Zzp recommends the 4 bar map with their upgraded tunes. Definitely will not work on a stock tune.

From reading, you only use the Bar sensor your tune it designed for. You can't just go change the sensor from stock to 3 Bar and things will be good.

I'm learning and thinking out loud here.

 

[Briann1177]

I'm not 100% sure, but I think it has to do with the MAP sensor output voltage scaling. On a 2 bar MAP, it's something like 0V for no boost and 5V for ~14.7 lbs boost. If you swap it out for a 3 bar MAP on the stock tune, then ~14.7 lbs of boost will read something like 3.3V. That will throw the ECM off by thinking it's getting a different amount of air than it should at those pressures.

 

[redline]

the bad thing is with getting this car from co-part I don't know what the last owner had done to it. I will have to wait now until I have it hooked back up and pull the tune off it. Wish I would have done that before stripping the donor. live and learn I guess.

 

[redline]

Car is completely stripped. I do have a few TC questions. car is manual so I have clutch pedal and clutch Pipe/hose. I have the shifter (bonus it had a short throw aftermarket shifter) was wondering if there is anything else I need to keep that is not on the standard checklist???

Items I would question are - rear rotors and calipers? in the video they are drum so not sure if I should keep them.
rear suspension?
steering tube(part the shaft came out of)?

Anything else I should hold onto for now?

 

[Briann1177]

The TC kit comes with 4 rotors and calipers.

No need to keep anything from the rear suspension.

For steering you need the u-joint shaft, the bearing, and the steering wheel tube. And the power steering module, but that's obvious.

 

[redline]

Thanks! my next dumb question is for those that got their donor off of CO-PART. I did not recieve and title or registration, just a bill of sale. Is this normal? Did any of you get a title or anything to help with registering the goblin?

 

[redline]

My donor had a destroyed intercooler so I need to get a new one. anyone have any recommendations? I am not so sure how effective the stock one is and now would be the time to change it.

 

[Briann1177]

The kit comes with an intercooler and heat exchanger.

 

[ctuinstra]

I was the same way. Even called ZZP to see if they could tell me what was on it, And they could not. So now I’m left guessing. I really want to get HP tuners to open it up and look at it myself.